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#121 Lux White

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 08:41 PM

Have fun: http://shop.ebay.com...=&_trksid=p3686

Fuck Third Man. It's disgusting to see them exploit their fans (you know, the ones that pay them 20.00 a month for their website) like this.


Psh. No way am I paying $200+ for an LP. I love you Jack and Meg, but NO.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 08:44 PM

I'm still hoping against hope that as they just posted the eBay link without comment, it doesn't mean they're endorsing it . . Surely, after all they've said about flippers? :unsure:


It's the same seller that sold the conan tris a while back for charity. Sure seems to be them.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 08:45 PM

I'm still hoping against hope that as they just posted the eBay link without comment, it doesn't mean they're endorsing it . . Surely, after all they've said about flippers? :unsure:

Didn't you see Jack on Modblast expalining that this is their way of giving the finger to the flippers?

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 08:46 PM

Have fun: http://shop.ebay.com...=&_trksid=p3686

Fuck Third Man. It's disgusting to see them exploit their fans (you know, the ones that pay them 20.00 a month for their website) like this.

Um what?

TMR isn't forcing you to pay these prices. It's just cutting out the flippers who make a profit by re-selling.



Maybe it's putting towards Christmas bonuses for the staff at TMR?

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 08:47 PM

haha, I was reading Third Mans EBay feed back.

" thanks for sellin these at cost, tmr. i think you're all pretty swell." $100 Conan Tri :lol: Cool buyer.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 08:48 PM

Didn't you see Jack on Modblast expalining that this is their way of giving the finger to the flippers?


I didn't see that; I was at work. I don't really see how selling them on ebay is giving the finger to the flippers. It looks more like a case of, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!"

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 08:57 PM

They quote shipping on the ebay splits at 4.95, I better not pay more than that on my online order tomorrow! Hopefully the site can handle it tomorrow and actually adds them to my cart.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 08:58 PM

Didn't you see Jack on Modblast expalining that this is their way of giving the finger to the flippers?


I missed it, but someone said that they're doing it to develop an average price to sell splits and limited releases for from now on, right?

If so, that's just as bad. Yeah, it cuts out the flippers, but it automatically puts these releases out of ~95% of Jack's fanbase's price range. It takes what was once a fun collecting thing and turns it into this exclusive, elite thing.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 09:10 PM

Didn't you see Jack on Modblast expalining that this is their way of giving the finger to the flippers?

Er, no. Twitter seems to be letting me down here!

I was relieved for about 30 seconds, but now I'm feeling much the same way I did before except that I'd rather Jack have the ridiculous profit than the flippers. But maybe he's earmarked it for the flood victims or something. I hope.

Edited by Aquamarine, 29 November 2010 - 09:14 PM.


#130 Flizzzipper

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 09:11 PM

You should have to show your WS tattoo and a ticket stub from a pre 2001 concert to be able to buy any white stripes related merch. It's the only way to stop flippers and bandwagon fans.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 09:18 PM

They are on the store right now. $20 each but you can't buy them yet. And apparently if you order all three at once they will not ship until the 14th!! Shiiit!

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 09:25 PM

Here is the chat about this situation posted by hawke000 at WhiteSwirl:

<JackWhite> see you in hell?
<JackWhite> cuddrei: going to announce detroit location pretty soon
<JackWhite> triple decker costs 500 bucks right?
<JackWhite> but why?
<thebends9> supply & demand
<JackWhite> thebends9: sounds right to me
<JackWhite> so who decides the price?
<JackWhite> ebay flippers waiting in line?
<JackWhite> cynical bloggers?
<RedOrchid> JackWhite: simple economics. supply and demand
<JackWhite> RedOrchid: you got it
<elduderino> JackWhite: so, if you can't beat 'em... ?
<JackWhite> elduderino: not trying to beat em this time
<3rdmanondahill> whats up with the self titled on ebay already?
<JackWhite> 3rdmanondahill: we thought we'd let you decide how much they cost this time
<LGENDERS> I love it but I will take my chances with the mail order
<JackWhite> maybe i'll take my chances with the mail order too, can't dis that.
<thebends9> ebay charity auction via Third man?
<JackWhite> why does it have to be charity?
<dexterslab> JackWhite: your ebay auctions are at 200, 150, 175, 136, 150
<JackWhite> dexterslab: they'll probably go higher than that
<senorsaltystick> sure let the market decide....but you pissed off alot of hardcore fans Jack.
<JackWhite> senorsaltystick: why would anyone be pissed about it?
<senorsaltystick> most peeps aren't cool with greed....they take more kindly to appreciation
<JackWhite> senorsaltystick: who's being greedy?
<senorsaltystick> JackWhite: cus no onewill listen to a $200 album.
<JackWhite> senorsaltystick: nobody told them to buy it with a gun to their head
<drdano> JackWhite: there's always people on ebay that jack the price up because they have more money than sense
<JackWhite> drdano: or are they just paying what the going rate is?
<benfrith> I'd rather the money go to the artist than some jerk flipper
<JackWhite> benfrith: good point
<JackWhite> the ebay flipper turns around and sells it for 300
<JackWhite> if 300 is what it's worth
<JackWhite> we sell a wanda jackson split record for 10 bucks
<JackWhite> then why doesn't 3rd man sell it for 300?
<Schiller> half the blame goes to the dolts who are shelling out that much on ebay though
<JackWhite> Schiller: you can't blame them if thats the going price
<JackWhite> an egg in 1849 in cali sold for $12
<mojoryan> JackWhite: because you care..300 would kill most people. You don't want that anymore than we do.
<JackWhite> mojoryan: it's not our choice though what the price is is it?
<dexterslab> JackWhite: i can tell you gave this ethical issue some thought
<JackWhite> dexterslab: just letting you know that 3rd man wants you to pick the price
<JackWhite> none of you wants to see a flipper walk out the door who doesn't even like the artist
<JackWhite> go and make a mint on a record he doesn't care about
<senorsaltystick> Jack is just printing money everybody....good for him...screw us.
<JackWhite> senorsaltystick: be nice
<shadynuts> JackWhite: So what the ones on Ebay go for will be retail price at TMR?
<JackWhite> shadynuts: you tell us
<skullfeast> I think $25 is a fair price for a 12 inch
<JackWhite> skullfeast: what about a 12" that is limited?
<JackWhite> you think a split color should be the same price as a black?
<JackWhite> if we sell them for more, the artist gets more, the flipper gets nothing
<JackWhite> we're not in the business of making flippers a living
<JackWhite> we're in the business of giving fans what they want
<markstgodard> Jack what is that wood box on top of your 1485 on IMGL?? Its driving me nuts
<JackWhite> markstgodard: it's a reverb unit
<senorsaltystick> JackWhite: Does Meg still share in the profits of these re-issues?
<JackWhite> senorsaltystick: yes meg get's her usual 99 percent
<QOTSA> JackWhite: So what is the price tomorrow for folks coming to Nashville?
<JackWhite> QOTSA: you tell us?
<JackWhite> what if we sold the records tomorrow for what you told us their worth on ebay?
<RedOrchid> HOW ABOUT EVERYONE PAYS WHAT THEY THINK IT IS WORTH???????
<JackWhite> RedOrchid: isn't that what people are doing on ebay right now? paying what they think it's worth?
<JackWhite> we know that a lot of people can't afford those prices, what does that mean? don't print limited edition records?
<JackWhite> it's an interesting question
<skullfeast> JackWhite: make it all possible
<JackWhite> skullfeast: we do that, it's called the black vinyl UNlimited version
<FrontRowDetroit> JackWhite: make them all split color
<JackWhite> FrontRowDetroit: then they won't be limited or desirable
<mattinator66> JackWhite: it's a question of integrity at the same time isn't it?
<JackWhite> mattinator66: integrity? what are we doing that doesn't have integrity?
<JackWhite> you're the ones telling us what they are worth
<JackWhite> third man didn't say "a lafayette blues hand painted is worth 18 grand" you decided that
<JackWhite> didn't you?
<juliusblaise> JackWhite: And there will ALWAYS be someone willing to pay too much money to get something
<JackWhite> juliusblaise: there are plenty of records that we've put out that aren't worth more than the original price though
<JackWhite> if we did all random mail orders, isn't that a scam to get people to buy more records that they don't want?
<JackWhite> hmmm......
<JackWhite> soviet tubes are nice
<JackWhite> alright chilluns, gotta go
<JackWhite> stay safe
<JackWhite> 3rd man is on your side dont forget
<JackWhite> see you soon



#133 Aquamarine

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 09:27 PM

Sorry, COTP, we posted at the same time!

You should have to show your WS tattoo and a ticket stub from a pre 2001 concert to be able to buy any white stripes related merch. It's the only way to stop flippers and bandwagon fans.


Hey!

I had to go to Swirl to see what Jack actually said, I'm so glad I wasn't there when he said it. Here's an excerpt, with thanks to Hawke000 for posting it:


<thebends9> ebay charity auction via Third man?
<JackWhite> why does it have to be charity?
<dexterslab> JackWhite: your ebay auctions are at 200, 150, 175, 136, 150
<JackWhite> dexterslab: they'll probably go higher than that
<senorsaltystick> sure let the market decide....but you pissed off alot of hardcore fans Jack.
<JackWhite> senorsaltystick: why would anyone be pissed about it?
<senorsaltystick> most peeps aren't cool with greed....they take more kindly to appreciation
<JackWhite> senorsaltystick: who's being greedy?
<senorsaltystick> JackWhite: cus no onewill listen to a $200 album.
<JackWhite> senorsaltystick: nobody told them to buy it with a gun to their head
<drdano> JackWhite: there's always people on ebay that jack the price up because they have more money than sense
<JackWhite> drdano: or are they just paying what the going rate is?
<benfrith> I'd rather the money go to the artist than some jerk flipper
<JackWhite> benfrith: good point
<JackWhite> the ebay flipper turns around and sells it for 300
<JackWhite> if 300 is what it's worth
<JackWhite> we sell a wanda jackson split record for 10 bucks
<JackWhite> then why doesn't 3rd man sell it for 300?
<Schiller> half the blame goes to the dolts who are shelling out that much on ebay though
<JackWhite> Schiller: you can't blame them if thats the going price
<JackWhite> an egg in 1849 in cali sold for $12
<mojoryan> JackWhite: because you care..300 would kill most people. You don't want that anymore than we do.
<JackWhite> mojoryan: it's not our choice though what the price is is it?
<dexterslab> JackWhite: i can tell you gave this ethical issue some thought
<JackWhite> dexterslab: just letting you know that 3rd man wants you to pick the price
<JackWhite> none of you wants to see a flipper walk out the door who doesn't even like the artist
<JackWhite> go and make a mint on a record he doesn't care about
<senorsaltystick> Jack is just printing money everybody....good for him...screw us.
<JackWhite> senorsaltystick: be nice

Edited by Aquamarine, 29 November 2010 - 09:28 PM.


#134 Flizzzipper

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 09:30 PM

<senorsaltystick> JackWhite: Does Meg still share in the profits of these re-issues?
<JackWhite> senorsaltystick: yes meg get's her usual 99 percent

:lol: :lol:

I would love to run TMR. I'd put these five out. Then immediately put up 100 of them after those ended.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 09:35 PM

Sorry, COTP, we posted at the same time!

ha, i just posted this in the Vault thread too. we're all so committed :lol:

i don't know what to make of all this...

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 09:39 PM

i don't know what to make of all this...


I'm only too afraid that I do. :(

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 09:43 PM

I'm only too afraid that I do. :(



Well what's your say?

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:03 PM

That chat made me feel gross inside.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:05 PM

Me too, Tim. Major :(

Edited by Angelina79, 29 November 2010 - 10:06 PM.


#140 shaneoftheroad

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:06 PM

As long as the regular releases are still unlimited and cheap I'm good. I started out on the whole "limited edition" craze at the beginning of this thread but after chatting with a number of you I've come to my good senses. Yeah, it'd be super sweet to have a split or a tri but it's not like we can't hear the music (except for the exclusive TD of course). I support whatever TMR decides to do as long as the music itself is available in some form.




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